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Part 11 · VIDEHA MITHILA MAITHILI DISCUSSION CRITICISM SERIES PART 11
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  1. 0:02–0:075 forms of controversy in the MMA with मैच्रन असे विच्मेच्रन दू।
  2. 0:08–0:15A mensaka may say that the validity of the first cognition is known intrinsically from the complete causal aggregate that produces the cognition.
  3. 0:15–0:18But 5 kinds of doubt arise concerning this view.
  4. 0:18–0:25First, does the complete causal aggregate producing cognition determine validity alone and not produce invalidity?
  5. 0:25–0:30Second, is validity known by that very cognition itself, and not by a distinct cognition taking
  6. 0:30–0:33validity as its object.
  7. 0:33–0:38If validity is said to be known extrinsically by another means, such as inference, it can
  8. 0:38–0:41be known only in a cognition already apprehended.
  9. 0:41–0:46If validity is known intrinsically from the complete set of the cognition's own causes,
  10. 0:46–0:50only cognition is qualified by validity will be established.
  11. 0:50–0:54The third doubt is whether validity is determined by the causes producing the
  12. 0:54–0:59cognition that is its substrate. The fourth is whether validity is known by the cognition
  13. 0:59–1:05that is its substrate or separately. Some say that validity is intrinsically known
  14. 1:05–1:11by its substrate, the first cognition, through an apprehension relation qualified by a universal
  15. 1:11–1:15property, thus the attempt to prove it inferentially would be partly vitiated by
  16. 1:15–1:21proving what is already established. Hence the probandom, validity, should be qualified
  17. 1:21–1:27is not arising from mental concentration. This is not correct. The validity of the first
  18. 1:27–1:34cognition cannot be established in any substrate other than the cognizer. Further, if validity
  19. 1:34–1:38alone, apart from its substrate, is made the subject of inference, validity will be
  20. 1:38–1:42known only through the first cognition that is its substrate, then the defect of an already
  21. 1:42–1:47established probandom does not arise, because the probandom has not previously been
  22. 1:47–1:53established at all. The fifth doubt is whether the validity of the first cognition, this is a pot,
  23. 1:53–2:00is known through the second, reflexive cognition, I know that this is a pot, or not. Or is the validity
  24. 2:00–2:05of the first cognition known from the complete set of causes producing the second cognition, or not?
  25. 2:07–2:11The prima facie theorist says, let its determination be through itself,
  26. 2:11–2:15that is, as soon as cognition arises, let its validity be known intrinsically.
  27. 2:15–2:18Thus the mutually opposed alternatives are these,
  28. 2:18–2:23a, is the validity of cognition necessarily apprehended by the causal aggregate that produces
  29. 2:23–2:26apprehension of the cognition but not apprehension of invalidity, or not.
  30. 2:27–2:31b, is the validity of that first cognition apprehended by a cognition not produced by
  31. 2:31–2:34the cognition that takes the first cognition as its object, or not.
  32. 2:35–2:39In the theory of extrinsic validity, validity is apprehended only when cognition
  33. 2:39–2:44itself has been apprehended. In the theory of intrinsic validity, cognition apprehends
  34. 2:44–2:47itself as qualified by validity.
  35. 2:47–2:53C. Is validity apprehended only by the cognition that apprehends its substrate, or not?
  36. 2:53–2:58D. Is validity apprehended only by its own substrate, or not?
  37. 2:58–3:02And does this occur in every case, or not?
  38. 3:02–3:06Objection, through an extraordinary relation consisting in yogically generated merit or
  39. 3:06–3:10in universal characteristic presentation, the validity of a cognition is sometimes
  40. 3:10–3:14apprehended in its own substrate and only by that very substrate, you Nya-ya-yakas yourselves
  41. 3:14–3:20say so. If this much is admitted, the Memsaka's attempt to prove his thesis will be partly
  42. 3:20–3:24subject to the defect of proving what is already established. The qualifier, not through
  43. 3:24–3:28yogically generated merit and the like, must therefore be added.
  44. 3:28–3:34Gangesa, this is mistaken. Such a point is not admitted with respect to the other
  45. 3:34–3:41party, themsakas. Moreover, the subject of themsaka thesis is validity in general, therefore
  46. 3:41–3:46what is to be proved, that validity is apprehended only by its substrate, is not something already
  47. 3:46–3:52admitted by all parties. Thus there is not even a partial defect of proving what is already
  48. 3:52–3:54established.
  49. 3:54–3:57The following questions also arise.
  50. 3:57–4:02E. Is the validity of the cognition this is a pot apprehended by that very cognition
  51. 4:02–4:08itself, or not? And is validity apprehended only by the apprehending cognition that apprehends
  52. 4:08–4:14the cognition serving is the substrate of validity, or not?
  53. 4:14–4:17Objection against the Memsar Caprima-Facey Theorist. In this context no definition of
  54. 4:17–4:21validity compatible with intrinsic validity is possible on the basis of which it could
  55. 4:21–4:26be known intrinsically. Whether validity is defined as
  56. 4:26–4:29d to the power of one, being a cognition that does not present as a mode of its
  57. 4:29–4:34qualificant a mode absent from the qualificant, that is, one that does not present a known
  58. 4:34–4:38object in a form which in reality is absent from it.
  59. 4:38–4:42D squared, being a cognition that apprehends an object not previously apprehended.
  60. 4:42–4:47Or, on accepting that all cognition presents objects as they are and is therefore veridical,
  61. 4:47–4:52and while rejecting a universal called, experientiality, D cubed, being a cognition distinct from
  62. 4:52–4:53memory.
  63. 4:53–4:58Or, D, being cognition of a qualified object.
  64. 4:58–5:04However it is defined among these alternatives, validity will not be intrinsically apprehensible,
  65. 5:04–5:09nor will it be apprehensible through the reflexive cognition admitted by some schools.
  66. 5:09–5:14For the cognition of the qualifier, Qualifikan relation implicit in the definitions beginning
  67. 5:14–5:17with D superscript 1 would be impossible.
  68. 5:17–5:22For example, the relation being a cognition that does not present a mode absent from
  69. 5:22–5:28its qualifikan, cannot be known when its qualifier has not previously been presented.
  70. 5:28–5:33Even if cognition is held to be super sensible, the inference establishing the existence of
  71. 5:33–5:36that cognition would not apprehend its validity.
  72. 5:36–5:41For manifestation and the like, which serve as marks or probative reasons for cognition
  73. 5:41–5:45in general, would be deviant with respect to validity, the class of all cognitions is
  74. 5:45–5:49broader than the class of valid cognitions.
  75. 5:49–5:53Nor can the argument proceed through a special kind of knownness imagined as a basis
  76. 5:53–5:57for inferring the production of the target cognition.
  77. 5:57–6:02First, it is difficult to determine the existence of such a special knownness.
  78. 6:02–6:07Second, even if its existence is admitted, invalidity known through a knownness not confined
  79. 6:07–6:14to valid cognition would likewise be apprehended intrinsically, an undesirable consequence.
  80. 6:14–6:19Prima-Facey Theorist, although the definitions considered above face those difficulties, validity
  81. 6:19–6:23is nevertheless one of the following, d, being a cognition that presents an object
  82. 6:23–6:29as phi, or d, being a cognition related as phi to a object. For in ordinary practice,
  83. 6:29–6:33unwavering effort and action follow merely from determining validity thus defined. This
  84. 6:33–6:39view has the merit of parsimony, any alternative would be comparatively cumbersome.
  85. 6:39–6:43In fact, validity is apprehended by the same causal aggregate that produces apprehension
  86. 6:43–6:47of the valid cognition. More specifically, in all three MMA with Macron essay with
  87. 6:47–6:52Macron theories, through a reflexive cognition of the target cognition, through inference,
  88. 6:52–6:56through self-liminosity, both the presence of the property in the qualifcant, the object,
  89. 6:56–7:00and the status of that property as the mode within the cognition are apprehended.
  90. 7:00–7:03For cognition is determined by its object.
  91. 7:03–7:08Consequently, when an apprehended cognition is cognized, its object too is known.
  92. 7:08–7:13Thus, just as the property and its possessor appear in the original or target cognition,
  93. 7:13–7:16the relation between them is also an object of cognition.
  94. 7:16–7:19For in the case of the target cognition, that relation too is known through the
  95. 7:19–7:22operative sense-object contact in precisely the same manner as the
  96. 7:22–7:26qualificant and qualifier of the target cognition unknown.
  97. 7:26–7:31Unwavering human activity arises solely from determining validity of cognition
  98. 7:31–7:35in this sense. This definition is economical, it should
  99. 7:35–7:39not be given another, more complex form carrying the fault of needless
  100. 7:39–7:43complication. Validity is known from the causal
  101. 7:43–7:48aggregate of cognition in validity extrinsically.
  102. 7:48–7:52The masakas hold that the validity of cognition is known solely from the complete causal aggregate
  103. 7:52–7:58producing the cognition. The validity in the first cognition, namely, the presence of a property in
  104. 7:58–8:02the object or cognition of an object with that property as its qualifier, is known, according
  105. 8:02–8:06to the guru's school, from the causal aggregate of the first cognition, according to the misra
  106. 8:06–8:10school, from the causal aggregate of the second cognition, the reflexive awareness,
  107. 8:10–8:14and according to the bar school, from the causal aggregate of a self-luminous inference.
  108. 8:14–8:19cognition is delimited by its object, and the object is known through apprehension of
  109. 8:19–8:24the cognitive occurrence. Therefore, as soon as the first cognition is apprehended, the
  110. 8:24–8:28property located in the object, its substrate, and the object qualified by that property
  111. 8:28–8:33all become objects of the first cognition. The apprehension relation of the first cognition
  112. 8:33–8:37applies equally to the property and to its status as qualifier. A first perceptual
  113. 8:37–8:42cognition such as, this is silver, presents the relata in relational form, one and
  114. 8:42–8:44the same thing is known as a relative endowed with the
  115. 8:44–8:49It should not be said that, because validity was not known in the first cognition, invalidity
  116. 8:49–8:53cannot subsequently be superimposed upon it.
  117. 8:53–8:57Validity is known through the complete set of causes producing cognition and becomes
  118. 8:57–9:01available through apprehension of the cognitive occurrence.
  119. 9:01–9:07This is just as correlate-ness and absences are known from their causal aggregates.
  120. 9:07–9:10The nature of cognitive invalidity is this, cognition arises with a property as
  121. 9:10–9:15qualifier where that qualifying property is absent. Invalidity is known extrinsically
  122. 9:15–9:20through another cause. For in error the substrate in which the qualifier is absent is not known
  123. 9:20–9:25and therefore cannot become an object of reflexive cognition. It should not be said
  124. 9:25–9:28that, since the second cognition apprehends all the objects of the first, error and
  125. 9:28–9:33cognition of error would become intermixed. Such intermixture is expected only in the
  126. 9:33–9:37absence of opposition and is automatically blocked when opposition is present. The
  127. 9:37–9:41The error of silver is not located in the shell before one, therefore a knower who knows
  128. 9:41–9:44another person's error need not himself be in error.
  129. 9:44–9:51Consequently, the validity of cognition is known intrinsically and invalidity extrinsically.
  130. 9:51–9:55The msaka-refutation of the objection that a special mode of qualification is not an
  131. 9:55–9:58object.
  132. 9:58–10:01The naiyayika object that the definition of validity requires not merely being the
  133. 10:01–10:06substrate of a qualifier, but acceptance of the qualifier's special qualificative
  134. 10:06–10:12For example, silverness. Such a special qualitative status appears only in the first cognition,
  135. 10:12–10:16not in the reflexive cognition, because the mind does not apprehend it independently of
  136. 10:16–10:21the first sensory perception. The Memsaka replies that the objection is unsound. The
  137. 10:21–10:25special qualitative status is known by the first cognition, and therefore the reflexive
  138. 10:25–10:30cognition can also take it as an object. Besides, there is no need to posit any separate
  139. 10:30–10:34specialness, of qualificative status, this will be refuted below.
  140. 10:35–10:40This reply also refutes the objection that validity is not intrinsically known in a non-self-luminous
  141. 10:40–10:45reflexive cognition because unless the substrate of the qualificant is known, validity as qualifier
  142. 10:45–10:50will also not be known. Once the validity of a self-luminous first cognition, such as verbal
  143. 10:50–10:54cognition or olfactory cognition, has been known from its causal aggregate, a separate
  144. 10:54–10:59awareness, this cognition is valid, is unnecessary. The causes of a self-luminous
  145. 10:59–11:03reflexive cognition illuminate only the cognition, not its property of validity.
  146. 11:04–11:08If those causes were capable of apprehending validity as well, they would also apprehend
  147. 11:08–11:13invalidity. In an inferential cognition that is illuminated by another cognition,
  148. 11:13–11:17an inference produced through a reason or by the mind cannot determine validity except mistakenly,
  149. 11:17–11:22because deviation in the reason is possible. Nor should it be maintained that validity
  150. 11:22–11:25residing in cognition must be known intrinsically from the causal aggregate,
  151. 11:25–11:31Otherwise, by the same reasoning, invalidity residing in cognition would also have to be intrinsically known.
  152. 11:31–11:36A reflexive cognition or inference is not produced from all the objects of the first cognition,
  153. 11:36–11:40therefore the objection that it intrinsically apprehends the first cognition's validity does not stand.
  154. 11:42–11:45Conclusion of the M. Saka Prima-Facey view
  155. 11:47–11:50The M. Saka concludes the Prima-Facey position as follows.
  156. 11:50–11:55The nature of the first cognitions validity can be understood in either of two ways.
  157. 11:55–11:591. Cognition arises with a property as qualifier when that property is present in the object,
  158. 11:59–12:05or, 2. Cognition arises taking as its object the qualificative status in the substrate of the qualifier.
  159. 12:05–12:11According to the guru's school this validity is intrinsically known from the complete causal aggregate of the first cognition,
  160. 12:11–12:16according to the misura school, from the causal aggregate of the second cognition, the reflexive awareness,
  161. 12:16–12:20according to the bar school, from the causal aggregate of inference.
  162. 12:20–12:24Whether cognition takes validity as its object or arises with validity as its qualifier,
  163. 12:24–12:30in both cases validity is determined by the complete causal aggregate producing the cognition.
  164. 12:30–12:34If cognitive validity were held to be known extrinsically through another means, an infinite
  165. 12:34–12:36regress would arise.
  166. 12:36–12:39For the validity of the cognition of validity and of the cognitions of the reason,
  167. 12:39–12:42subject, and pervation proving validity would each have to be determined through
  168. 12:42–12:48another means, the validity of that means would require a third, and so on without end. Validity
  169. 12:48–12:52would consequently never be established. By elimination it follows that the validity of
  170. 12:52–12:57cognition is known intrinsically from the complete set of its own causes. This is the
  171. 12:57–13:04Memsaka Prima Facey View. The Neayaka doctrine, validity is known extrinsically.
  172. 13:05–13:10The Neayaka doctrine is that validity is known extrinsically, that is, through another means.
  173. 13:10–13:16If validity were intrinsically known from the complete causal aggregate of cognition,
  174. 13:16–13:20then an estate-lacking habituation when a cognition of the same kind has not repeatedly
  175. 13:20–13:25arisen, its validity would be automatically certain as soon as the cognition arose, and
  176. 13:25–13:28no doubt about validity could ever arise.
  177. 13:28–13:33Moreover, it is impossible to hold that the causal aggregate of cognition intrinsically
  178. 13:33–13:38makes its validity known when the cognition itself has not yet been apprehended.
  179. 13:38–13:43And if the cognition serving is the substrate of the first cognition were itself not known,
  180. 13:43–13:47no doubt about validity could arise either.
  181. 13:47–13:51It may be said that, as soon as the opposing alternatives are remembered, the first cognition
  182. 13:51–13:55perishes immediately before doubt arises, hence there need be no mental doubt of the
  183. 13:55–14:00form, is this cognition valid or not, with the first cognition as its qualifcant?
  184. 14:00–14:02This is unsound.
  185. 14:02–14:05Doubt must arise about the validity of a first cognition presented through another
  186. 14:05–14:06cognition.
  187. 14:06–14:10Therefore the validity of cognition is known only extrinsically.
  188. 14:10–14:16Continuation of the Neayaka doctrine, validity is known extrinsically.
  189. 14:16–14:23On the remaining Saka view, if the validity of the first cognition is not determined after that cognition has perished,
  190. 14:23–14:29doubt about validity would become impossible because the cognition that is its substrate is no longer known.
  191. 14:29–14:35The msaka may say that as soon as the two opposing alternatives are remembered, the first cognition
  192. 14:35–14:40parishes immediately before doubt, hence there is no need for a mental doubt of the form,
  193. 14:40–14:46is this cognition valid or not, taking the first cognition as its qualificand?
  194. 14:46–14:48The Neyayaka rejects this.
  195. 14:48–14:53Doubt about the validity of the first cognition presented by another cognition requires
  196. 14:53–14:57apprehension of that cognition as the substrate.
  197. 14:57–15:01The reason in an inference produces certainty, not doubt.
  198. 15:01–15:06And if the first cognition is regarded as merely a mental perception, the causal conditions
  199. 15:06–15:10producing knowledge of validity would inhibit doubt about validity, because those conditions
  200. 15:10–15:12cause certainty.
  201. 15:12–15:17Thus the Mzaka claim that doubt about validity is possible even though validity is intrinsically
  202. 15:17–15:20known as not established.
  203. 15:20–15:26The validity of cognition is determined only extrinsically.
  204. 15:26–15:31of the Misaka argument that doubt about validity is impossible.
  205. 15:31–15:35It may be objected that knowledge of the substrate of a property is not the actual cause of doubt
  206. 15:35–15:36about that property.
  207. 15:36–15:41A first cognition in the form of the doubt, is this cognition valid or not, can arise
  208. 15:41–15:45merely from cognition of two opposing alternatives, non-perception of a distinguishing feature,
  209. 15:45–15:48and sense contact with the property bearer.
  210. 15:48–15:51This objection is unsound.
  211. 15:51–15:54If cognition is super sensible, mental doubt about validity taking the first cognition
  212. 15:54–15:58as the property bearer cannot arise without knowledge of that property bearer, namely
  213. 15:58–16:03the first cognition. The inferential reason proving validity likewise does not generate
  214. 16:03–16:08doubt, it is a cause of certainty. And if the first cognition is taken to be mentally
  215. 16:08–16:11perceptible, the causal conditions of knowledge of validity would themselves inhibit doubt
  216. 16:11–16:16about validity, because they are the conditions of certainty about validity. Otherwise doubt
  217. 16:16–16:22about validity could arise even when one of the opposing alternatives is directly perceived.
  218. 16:22–16:27It may again be said that, when one alternative is remembered and the other specific alternative
  219. 16:27–16:32is not perceived, the one alternative is superimposed upon the property bearer, but when both alternatives
  220. 16:32–16:36are remembered, doubt about validity arises.
  221. 16:36–16:40Thus the conditions of doubt are stronger than the conditions of certainty, when both
  222. 16:40–16:46opposing alternatives are remembered, not certainty but only doubt will arise.
  223. 16:46–16:50This argument too is unsound.
  224. 16:50–16:55of both mutually opposed alternatives on one property bearer results from the conjunction
  225. 16:55–17:00of two distinct sets of superimposition conditions, and that dual superimposition is what is
  226. 17:00–17:01called doubt.
  227. 17:01–17:06The conditions superimposing one alternative do not prevent those superimposing the other,
  228. 17:06–17:11because the two sets of conditions are not mutually opposed.
  229. 17:11–17:15Nor can it be said that the combined conditions superimposing both alternatives block the
  230. 17:15–17:19conditions determining one alternative, because there is no distinct set of conditions
  231. 17:19–17:25for dual superimposition apart from the conditions for superimposing each alternative.
  232. 17:25–17:30Two different causal sets can simultaneously produce two different results, as is observed
  233. 17:30–17:32in collective cognition.
  234. 17:32–17:37Therefore, when the conditions determining validity are present, doubt about validity
  235. 17:37–17:39cannot arise.
  236. 17:39–17:44In doubt, cognition of the property bearer and prominence of both opposed alternatives
  237. 17:44–17:48are indispensable, hence cognition of the first cognition as property bearer must
  238. 17:48–17:52be accepted as a cause of doubt.
  239. 17:52–17:59Refutation of the argument that doubt about validity arises from another defect.
  240. 17:59–18:03The Mtsaka may say that, when there is an ocular defect such as jaundice, an illusion
  241. 18:03–18:07such as this conch is yellow or the appearance of a face in a mirror arises even though
  242. 18:07–18:10a particular property is perceived.
  243. 18:10–18:15Likewise, when some other defect is present among the causes of cognition, doubt about
  244. 18:15–18:20validity may arise even after validity has been determined.
  245. 18:20–18:22This analogy is inappropriate.
  246. 18:22–18:27If doubt arose in that way even after validity had been determined, the undesirable consequence
  247. 18:27–18:30would follow that, as in illusion, one would act toward the object even while in a state
  248. 18:30–18:32of doubt.
  249. 18:32–18:37Direct determination of the genuine distinguishing property inhibits a presentational illusion.
  250. 18:37–18:40It may again be said that doubt about the validity of the original cognition
  251. 18:40–18:44arises from doubt about the validity of the cognition of validity, just as doubt
  252. 18:44–18:48about an object arises from doubt about the validity of the first cognition concerning
  253. 18:48–18:53it. This argument too fails. If the validity of the cognition of validity is not intrinsically
  254. 18:53–18:58determined by its own causal aggregate, there is no basis for doubting that validity, and
  255. 18:58–19:03if it is intrinsically determined, there is no room for doubt.
  256. 19:03–19:08Recutation of further arguments for doubt about validity
  257. 19:08–19:12The men's arka says that cognition as such does not eliminate a contrary cognition,
  258. 19:12–19:17a sublating cognition arises even after an illusion. Only a cognition that is not otherwise
  259. 19:17–19:22established, that is, one not apprehended as erroneous, eliminates contrary cognition.
  260. 19:22–19:26Therefore, even when cognition of an object is generally possible, doubt about the object
  261. 19:26–19:30arises if there is no determination that, this cognition is neither erroneous nor
  262. 19:30–19:34needless repetition. Likewise, when the cognition of validity is suspected of being
  263. 19:34–19:38erroneous or otherwise established, doubt about validity may arise in place of certainty
  264. 19:38–19:43about validity. An objection may be made, the first cognition
  265. 19:43–19:47concerning a pot becomes the object of reflexive awareness, therefore there is no doubt that,
  266. 19:47–19:52this is cognition of a pot. Likewise, because reflexive awareness is certainly valid, there
  267. 19:52–19:57should be no doubt about the validity of the first cognition. The Mensaka replies
  268. 19:57–20:01that even if reflexive awareness is itself invalid, it can apprehend the first cognition
  269. 20:01–20:06as cognition and the pot as its object. Likewise, though itself invalid, reflexive
  270. 20:06–20:10awareness can take as its object the validity of the first cognition as not otherwise established,
  271. 20:10–20:13hence doubt about the first cognition's validity is possible.
  272. 20:14–20:19The Nayaika replies that being erroneous means absence of being not otherwise established,
  273. 20:19–20:24namely being otherwise established. Thus doubt about the validity of the first cognition can
  274. 20:24–20:28arise only when there is doubt whether the determination of its validity is itself erroneous.
  275. 20:28–20:32But no doubt about the erroneousness of reflexive awareness arises merely according
  276. 20:32–20:37as its validity is determined or undetermined. Likewise, doubt about the erroneousness of
  277. 20:37–20:42the first cognition will not generate doubt about the validity of its object. And if the
  278. 20:42–20:46validity of the first cognition is held to be intrinsically determined by its own causal
  279. 20:46–20:50aggregate, doubt about its erroneousness is impossible. Therefore the Mem Saka cannot
  280. 20:50–20:53properly admit doubt about validity on this basis.

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5 forms of controversy in the MMA with मैच्रन असे विच्मेच्रन दू। A mensaka may say that the validity of the first cognition is known intrinsically from the complete causal aggregate that produces the cognition. But 5 kinds of doubt arise concerning this view. First, does the complete causal aggregate producing cognition determine validity alone and not produce invalidity? Second, is validity known by that very cognition itself, and not by a distinct cognition taking validity as its object. If validity is said to be known extrinsically by another means, such as inference, it can be known only in a cognition already apprehended. If validity is known intrinsically from the complete set of the cognition's own causes, only cognition is qualified by validity will be established. The third doubt is whether validity is determined by the causes producing the cognition that is its substrate. The fourth is whether validity is known by the cognition that is its substrate or separately. Some say that validity is intrinsically known by its substrate, the first cognition, through an apprehension relation qualified by a universal property, thus the attempt to prove it inferentially would be partly vitiated by proving what is already established. Hence the probandom, validity, should be qualified is not arising from mental concentration. This is not correct. The validity of the first cognition cannot be established in any substrate other than the cognizer. Further, if validity alone, apart from its substrate, is made the subject of inference, validity will be known only through the first cognition that is its substrate, then the defect of an already established probandom does not arise, because the probandom has not previously been established at all. The fifth doubt is whether the validity of the first cognition, this is a pot, is known through the second, reflexive cognition, I know that this is a pot, or not. Or is the validity of the first cognition known from the complete set of causes producing the second cognition, or not? The prima facie theorist says, let its determination be through itself, that is, as soon as cognition arises, let its validity be known intrinsically. Thus the mutually opposed alternatives are these, a, is the validity of cognition necessarily apprehended by the causal aggregate that produces apprehension of the cognition but not apprehension of invalidity, or not. b, is the validity of that first cognition apprehended by a cognition not produced by the cognition that takes the first cognition as its object, or not. In the theory of extrinsic validity, validity is apprehended only when cognition itself has been apprehended. In the theory of intrinsic validity, cognition apprehends itself as qualified by validity. C. Is validity apprehended only by the cognition that apprehends its substrate, or not? D. Is validity apprehended only by its own substrate, or not? And does this occur in every case, or not? Objection, through an extraordinary relation consisting in yogically generated merit or in universal characteristic presentation, the validity of a cognition is sometimes apprehended in its own substrate and only by that very substrate, you Nya-ya-yakas yourselves say so. If this much is admitted, the Memsaka's attempt to prove his thesis will be partly subject to the defect of proving what is already established. The qualifier, not through yogically generated merit and the like, must therefore be added. Gangesa, this is mistaken. Such a point is not admitted with respect to the other party, themsakas. Moreover, the subject of themsaka thesis is validity in general, therefore what is to be proved, that validity is apprehended only by its substrate, is not something already admitted by all parties. Thus there is not even a partial defect of proving what is already established. The following questions also arise. E. Is the validity of the cognition this is a pot apprehended by that very cognition itself, or not? And is validity apprehended only by the apprehending cognition that apprehends the cognition serving is the substrate of validity, or not? Objection against the Memsar Caprima-Facey Theorist. In this context no definition of validity compatible with intrinsic validity is possible on the basis of which it could be known intrinsically. Whether validity is defined as d to the power of one, being a cognition that does not present as a mode of its qualificant a mode absent from the qualificant, that is, one that does not present a known object in a form which in reality is absent from it. D squared, being a cognition that apprehends an object not previously apprehended. Or, on accepting that all cognition presents objects as they are and is therefore veridical, and while rejecting a universal called, experientiality, D cubed, being a cognition distinct from memory. Or, D, being cognition of a qualified object. However it is defined among these alternatives, validity will not be intrinsically apprehensible, nor will it be apprehensible through the reflexive cognition admitted by some schools. For the cognition of the qualifier, Qualifikan relation implicit in the definitions beginning with D superscript 1 would be impossible. For example, the relation being a cognition that does not present a mode absent from its qualifikan, cannot be known when its qualifier has not previously been presented. Even if cognition is held to be super sensible, the inference establishing the existence of that cognition would not apprehend its validity. For manifestation and the like, which serve as marks or probative reasons for cognition in general, would be deviant with respect to validity, the class of all cognitions is broader than the class of valid cognitions. Nor can the argument proceed through a special kind of knownness imagined as a basis for inferring the production of the target cognition. First, it is difficult to determine the existence of such a special knownness. Second, even if its existence is admitted, invalidity known through a knownness not confined to valid cognition would likewise be apprehended intrinsically, an undesirable consequence. Prima-Facey Theorist, although the definitions considered above face those difficulties, validity is nevertheless one of the following, d, being a cognition that presents an object as phi, or d, being a cognition related as phi to a object. For in ordinary practice, unwavering effort and action follow merely from determining validity thus defined. This view has the merit of parsimony, any alternative would be comparatively cumbersome. In fact, validity is apprehended by the same causal aggregate that produces apprehension of the valid cognition. More specifically, in all three MMA with Macron essay with Macron theories, through a reflexive cognition of the target cognition, through inference, through self-liminosity, both the presence of the property in the qualifcant, the object, and the status of that property as the mode within the cognition are apprehended. For cognition is determined by its object. Consequently, when an apprehended cognition is cognized, its object too is known. Thus, just as the property and its possessor appear in the original or target cognition, the relation between them is also an object of cognition. For in the case of the target cognition, that relation too is known through the operative sense-object contact in precisely the same manner as the qualificant and qualifier of the target cognition unknown. Unwavering human activity arises solely from determining validity of cognition in this sense. This definition is economical, it should not be given another, more complex form carrying the fault of needless complication. Validity is known from the causal aggregate of cognition in validity extrinsically. The masakas hold that the validity of cognition is known solely from the complete causal aggregate producing the cognition. The validity in the first cognition, namely, the presence of a property in the object or cognition of an object with that property as its qualifier, is known, according to the guru's school, from the causal aggregate of the first cognition, according to the misra school, from the causal aggregate of the second cognition, the reflexive awareness, and according to the bar school, from the causal aggregate of a self-luminous inference. cognition is delimited by its object, and the object is known through apprehension of the cognitive occurrence. Therefore, as soon as the first cognition is apprehended, the property located in the object, its substrate, and the object qualified by that property all become objects of the first cognition. The apprehension relation of the first cognition applies equally to the property and to its status as qualifier. A first perceptual cognition such as, this is silver, presents the relata in relational form, one and the same thing is known as a relative endowed with the It should not be said that, because validity was not known in the first cognition, invalidity cannot subsequently be superimposed upon it. Validity is known through the complete set of causes producing cognition and becomes available through apprehension of the cognitive occurrence. This is just as correlate-ness and absences are known from their causal aggregates. The nature of cognitive invalidity is this, cognition arises with a property as qualifier where that qualifying property is absent. Invalidity is known extrinsically through another cause. For in error the substrate in which the qualifier is absent is not known and therefore cannot become an object of reflexive cognition. It should not be said that, since the second cognition apprehends all the objects of the first, error and cognition of error would become intermixed. Such intermixture is expected only in the absence of opposition and is automatically blocked when opposition is present. The The error of silver is not located in the shell before one, therefore a knower who knows another person's error need not himself be in error. Consequently, the validity of cognition is known intrinsically and invalidity extrinsically. The msaka-refutation of the objection that a special mode of qualification is not an object. The naiyayika object that the definition of validity requires not merely being the substrate of a qualifier, but acceptance of the qualifier's special qualificative For example, silverness. Such a special qualitative status appears only in the first cognition, not in the reflexive cognition, because the mind does not apprehend it independently of the first sensory perception. The Memsaka replies that the objection is unsound. The special qualitative status is known by the first cognition, and therefore the reflexive cognition can also take it as an object. Besides, there is no need to posit any separate specialness, of qualificative status, this will be refuted below. This reply also refutes the objection that validity is not intrinsically known in a non-self-luminous reflexive cognition because unless the substrate of the qualificant is known, validity as qualifier will also not be known. Once the validity of a self-luminous first cognition, such as verbal cognition or olfactory cognition, has been known from its causal aggregate, a separate awareness, this cognition is valid, is unnecessary. The causes of a self-luminous reflexive cognition illuminate only the cognition, not its property of validity. If those causes were capable of apprehending validity as well, they would also apprehend invalidity. In an inferential cognition that is illuminated by another cognition, an inference produced through a reason or by the mind cannot determine validity except mistakenly, because deviation in the reason is possible. Nor should it be maintained that validity residing in cognition must be known intrinsically from the causal aggregate, Otherwise, by the same reasoning, invalidity residing in cognition would also have to be intrinsically known. A reflexive cognition or inference is not produced from all the objects of the first cognition, therefore the objection that it intrinsically apprehends the first cognition's validity does not stand. Conclusion of the M. Saka Prima-Facey view The M. Saka concludes the Prima-Facey position as follows. The nature of the first cognitions validity can be understood in either of two ways. 1. Cognition arises with a property as qualifier when that property is present in the object, or, 2. Cognition arises taking as its object the qualificative status in the substrate of the qualifier. According to the guru's school this validity is intrinsically known from the complete causal aggregate of the first cognition, according to the misura school, from the causal aggregate of the second cognition, the reflexive awareness, according to the bar school, from the causal aggregate of inference. Whether cognition takes validity as its object or arises with validity as its qualifier, in both cases validity is determined by the complete causal aggregate producing the cognition. If cognitive validity were held to be known extrinsically through another means, an infinite regress would arise. For the validity of the cognition of validity and of the cognitions of the reason, subject, and pervation proving validity would each have to be determined through another means, the validity of that means would require a third, and so on without end. Validity would consequently never be established. By elimination it follows that the validity of cognition is known intrinsically from the complete set of its own causes. This is the Memsaka Prima Facey View. The Neayaka doctrine, validity is known extrinsically. The Neayaka doctrine is that validity is known extrinsically, that is, through another means. If validity were intrinsically known from the complete causal aggregate of cognition, then an estate-lacking habituation when a cognition of the same kind has not repeatedly arisen, its validity would be automatically certain as soon as the cognition arose, and no doubt about validity could ever arise. Moreover, it is impossible to hold that the causal aggregate of cognition intrinsically makes its validity known when the cognition itself has not yet been apprehended. And if the cognition serving is the substrate of the first cognition were itself not known, no doubt about validity could arise either. It may be said that, as soon as the opposing alternatives are remembered, the first cognition perishes immediately before doubt arises, hence there need be no mental doubt of the form, is this cognition valid or not, with the first cognition as its qualifcant? This is unsound. Doubt must arise about the validity of a first cognition presented through another cognition. Therefore the validity of cognition is known only extrinsically. Continuation of the Neayaka doctrine, validity is known extrinsically. On the remaining Saka view, if the validity of the first cognition is not determined after that cognition has perished, doubt about validity would become impossible because the cognition that is its substrate is no longer known. The msaka may say that as soon as the two opposing alternatives are remembered, the first cognition parishes immediately before doubt, hence there is no need for a mental doubt of the form, is this cognition valid or not, taking the first cognition as its qualificand? The Neyayaka rejects this. Doubt about the validity of the first cognition presented by another cognition requires apprehension of that cognition as the substrate. The reason in an inference produces certainty, not doubt. And if the first cognition is regarded as merely a mental perception, the causal conditions producing knowledge of validity would inhibit doubt about validity, because those conditions cause certainty. Thus the Mzaka claim that doubt about validity is possible even though validity is intrinsically known as not established. The validity of cognition is determined only extrinsically. of the Misaka argument that doubt about validity is impossible. It may be objected that knowledge of the substrate of a property is not the actual cause of doubt about that property. A first cognition in the form of the doubt, is this cognition valid or not, can arise merely from cognition of two opposing alternatives, non-perception of a distinguishing feature, and sense contact with the property bearer. This objection is unsound. If cognition is super sensible, mental doubt about validity taking the first cognition as the property bearer cannot arise without knowledge of that property bearer, namely the first cognition. The inferential reason proving validity likewise does not generate doubt, it is a cause of certainty. And if the first cognition is taken to be mentally perceptible, the causal conditions of knowledge of validity would themselves inhibit doubt about validity, because they are the conditions of certainty about validity. Otherwise doubt about validity could arise even when one of the opposing alternatives is directly perceived. It may again be said that, when one alternative is remembered and the other specific alternative is not perceived, the one alternative is superimposed upon the property bearer, but when both alternatives are remembered, doubt about validity arises. Thus the conditions of doubt are stronger than the conditions of certainty, when both opposing alternatives are remembered, not certainty but only doubt will arise. This argument too is unsound. of both mutually opposed alternatives on one property bearer results from the conjunction of two distinct sets of superimposition conditions, and that dual superimposition is what is called doubt. The conditions superimposing one alternative do not prevent those superimposing the other, because the two sets of conditions are not mutually opposed. Nor can it be said that the combined conditions superimposing both alternatives block the conditions determining one alternative, because there is no distinct set of conditions for dual superimposition apart from the conditions for superimposing each alternative. Two different causal sets can simultaneously produce two different results, as is observed in collective cognition. Therefore, when the conditions determining validity are present, doubt about validity cannot arise. In doubt, cognition of the property bearer and prominence of both opposed alternatives are indispensable, hence cognition of the first cognition as property bearer must be accepted as a cause of doubt. Refutation of the argument that doubt about validity arises from another defect. The Mtsaka may say that, when there is an ocular defect such as jaundice, an illusion such as this conch is yellow or the appearance of a face in a mirror arises even though a particular property is perceived. Likewise, when some other defect is present among the causes of cognition, doubt about validity may arise even after validity has been determined. This analogy is inappropriate. If doubt arose in that way even after validity had been determined, the undesirable consequence would follow that, as in illusion, one would act toward the object even while in a state of doubt. Direct determination of the genuine distinguishing property inhibits a presentational illusion. It may again be said that doubt about the validity of the original cognition arises from doubt about the validity of the cognition of validity, just as doubt about an object arises from doubt about the validity of the first cognition concerning it. This argument too fails. If the validity of the cognition of validity is not intrinsically determined by its own causal aggregate, there is no basis for doubting that validity, and if it is intrinsically determined, there is no room for doubt. Recutation of further arguments for doubt about validity The men's arka says that cognition as such does not eliminate a contrary cognition, a sublating cognition arises even after an illusion. Only a cognition that is not otherwise established, that is, one not apprehended as erroneous, eliminates contrary cognition. Therefore, even when cognition of an object is generally possible, doubt about the object arises if there is no determination that, this cognition is neither erroneous nor needless repetition. Likewise, when the cognition of validity is suspected of being erroneous or otherwise established, doubt about validity may arise in place of certainty about validity. An objection may be made, the first cognition concerning a pot becomes the object of reflexive awareness, therefore there is no doubt that, this is cognition of a pot. Likewise, because reflexive awareness is certainly valid, there should be no doubt about the validity of the first cognition. The Mensaka replies that even if reflexive awareness is itself invalid, it can apprehend the first cognition as cognition and the pot as its object. Likewise, though itself invalid, reflexive awareness can take as its object the validity of the first cognition as not otherwise established, hence doubt about the first cognition's validity is possible. The Nayaika replies that being erroneous means absence of being not otherwise established, namely being otherwise established. Thus doubt about the validity of the first cognition can arise only when there is doubt whether the determination of its validity is itself erroneous. But no doubt about the erroneousness of reflexive awareness arises merely according as its validity is determined or undetermined. Likewise, doubt about the erroneousness of the first cognition will not generate doubt about the validity of its object. And if the validity of the first cognition is held to be intrinsically determined by its own causal aggregate, doubt about its erroneousness is impossible. Therefore the Mem Saka cannot properly admit doubt about validity on this basis.

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